Sweet Family Music

Arin Hancock: All right. That's actually not bad. I think the

Kris plamondon: And not bad. Not the best, but not bad.

Arin Hancock: you know what? It might be the best song on this album.

Kris plamondon: That that's right. That's what I was just thinking. That might be the best we we could we find.

Arin Hancock: You know, every time we go through albums that especially the ones you don't like or the ones I'm not the most impressed with, I try to find something positive. This is probably the only positive thing on this record. Hey, we found something that wasn't terrible.

Kris plamondon: Yes. my goodness. my goodness.

Arin Hancock: that was Grammatrain's version of more than a man. This is the Rock and Metal Faith Podcast. Welcome to the Rock and Metal Faith Podcast, where it's all about the rock that makes me sing. Christian rock and metal. From the classics to the new guys. I'm your host, Arin Hancock, joined as always with my co-host Kris Plamondon How are you doing, Kris?

Kris plamondon: I'm doing okay. I'm alive.

Arin Hancock: That's good. All right. Yeah. it's been a busy August for us. if you just joined us for the first time, thanks for joining us. And if you've been around a while, thanks for sticking around and coming back. And you may notice a few slight changes we're gonna try and do things a little faster, quicker, get to our main program a little sooner. Which means we will soon probably be cutting out the plug it in segment, although we are gonna run that tonight. We're gonna maybe have a little less music segments going on. But before we get into it, there let's we do have a few comments to get to. On our best of Angelica episode there, we had comments saying I have both the walking in faith and the rock stock and barrel. I can't say they ever stayed in my player too long. But I think it was walking in faith I played the most. But yeah, it's been a long time. I just got two of their other albums on digital. And I'll play all four. And then come back and listen to this episode again. Might not be enough to sink in, but I'll see if I'm close to your reviews. And another one here says, I listened to Angelica in the past. I saw Dennis Cameron playing in Michael's sweet solo band and back in 1994. That was a great festival. Had Sweet Whiteheart. Rich Mullins and others have played. And yeah, so that's how that went. we did our best of Angelica a few episodes ago. And since then then we've talked to a couple other guys, and the last episode r we released was Rex Carroll talking about with the second White Cross album, Hammer and Nail. you weren't too impressed with the Angelica albums though, were you, Kris?

Kris plamondon: Yeah. No, no, no. And I'm

Arin Hancock: too impressed with their music though, were you?

Kris plamondon: disappointed because I thought originally back in the day, thought, you said Angelica, there'll be a great Christian band for us. Yes. And then I heard it and no. No.

Arin Hancock: And we got one other comment actually about that from Rock Hot Takes. It says y'all went pretty deep on this one, dig it. See ya soon. And for you those who don't know, and I don't think you realize this, Kris. This came from Daryl and Daryl you know of To Hell with the Podcast. they're supporting our podcast, we support theirs, they've been listening in. So he liked the episode. And he's also got a new YouTube channel out there called Rock Hot Takes, where he's talking about just rock in general and his views on different albums, different songs. So you guys might want to check that out. I've been watching them. not bad though. interesting. And then we had one comment on our Barnabas episode, which was a bonus episode. I just quickly talked about the band Barnabas, saying he w wishes they would play at Immortal Fest. I don't even know if that band is still around, still active or anything like that. Although some of these old bands are getting back together. But yeah, and Barnabas unfortunately doesn't have anything on streaming. They don't have you know, you can't hear the music unless you look it up on YouTube. And I wish some of these older bands would put it out on streaming so we could check them out a little more easier. But that's my take on on that. Alright, we are going to talk about today. an album we keep saying we're gonna talk about, so we're finally gonna get around to this. I've kept alluding to this for a while now. We're gonna be talking about Sweet Family Music, which was well, it was supposedly a tribute that came out in the mid nineties. Before we get into that, I know I said we weren't gonna do the plug it in too much. we are gonna do the plug it in for right now, though. the reason is And I'll I'll give a spoiler alert right now. I am not a big fan of the record we're talking about, which was Sweet Family Music. Supposed to be a tribute. but I wanted to emphasize a good tribute. And I think we've talked about this as well. we'll get into it. Let's do the plug it in. Alright, so we're just gonna keep that real short there for the plug it in music. yeah, so I wanted to talk about a good Stryper tribute. And no, we talked about that earlier too. Guardian has done the yellow and black attack in its entirety and covered that pretty well. There is I just released, I think, a couple months ago. Anyways, not that long ago. There was a fortieth anniversary tribute to to to Hell with the Devil that came out. put out by Roxx Records. It's got a number of new artists on there, up and coming artists on there. really good some of the artists are actually heavier than what Stryper is and they do some heavier versions of the Stryper songs but they all rock I would say check out German Pascal's version of Honestly that's a good one

Kris plamondon: All right.

Arin Hancock: And we are gonna check out a little bit here of reign of glory doing to hell the devil. Now we've talked about this before.

Kris plamondon: Okay.

Arin Hancock: Who could replace Michael if Michael needed replacement on vocals?

Kris plamondon: the other day, they had him in next concert date. That guy was there with Michael on stage. Yeah.

Arin Hancock: is he? From Ra the Mark-Boals from Reign of Glory and I know his name but it slips his mind. Yeah. Alright.

Kris plamondon: And he could wow he can

Arin Hancock: Anyways, here we go with Reign of Glory and to hell with the devil.

Kris plamondon: There you are. I just had you.

Arin Hancock: That's a little bit of Reign of Glory's cover of To Hell with the Devil. And I know we were trying to get into our main episode real quick here. But I did want to introduce a new segment we're gonna do. And there is a Stryper trivia book out there. So we're gonna quickly run through that. And but the way it's work is gonna the way it's gonna work is like this. I'm gonna read off the question. If you want to think about the answer for a while, pause the episode. We're gonna do a s little bit of a musical interlude. And then and then I'll give you the answer. And it's just gonna be real set real quick here. Alright, so the first question. What two studios did the band Stryper use to record yellow and black attack? And I'll give you a min musical interlude. No, it's not the Jeopardy music. Alright, I will leave it that. let me turn to the answer page here. And the two studios used to record the yellow and black attack were Music Grinder Studios and Mag Dog Studios.

Kris plamondon: I say mad dog.

Arin Hancock: That was a tough one for me. you know, and I've been going through this, kind of perusing this Stryper trivia book. And we're gonna, you know, go through question and episode or whatever. We'll do that. All right. on to the main episode. So Big fan of Stryper. Been you know, I came in with them on I guess it would have been in God We Trust and then bought the The Hell the Devil. Next release they do is Against the Law. I and I buy Can't Stop the Rock because it was the greatest hits and it was a good way for me to get the old stuff. Then what year did this come out? 1998. Okay, so Stryper's been defunct for a few years, not doing much. This album comes out, and if you want to see the cover, that's what it looks like. Kind of a cool cover. I like it. It looks like a for those of you listening on audio, it looks like about five kids sitting around in a big bedroom. or maybe a basement it looks like a seventies type of decor and something this but the hell the devil is a poster on the wall they've got the other record Stryper records kicking around the you know in the picture there kind of cool they've got some other cool pictures on here too I'll just hold this up and kind of hard to scribe so if you're not watching on YouTube okay Most of the artists on this record I had no idea who they were, unfortunately. let's get in but let's just get right into it. Okay. So I'm I'm gonna play the first track, The Abyss, and we'll see how it goes. Alright, enough of that. It's more just like that.

Kris plamondon: Yeah, yeah.

Arin Hancock: so I I I get what they're trying to do. the adept abyss is an adaptation by Cell Dweller. like I said, most of these guys, I have no idea who they are. I should read this. Okay, so anyways. I I get what they're trying to do. They're trying to do what the Stryper did with the abyss leading into to hell with the devil on that album. Now with the sound effects. No, not bad. I suppose that's all right. It's a good way to kinda open up the album. And then the second track on here is Steve Hindelone of the choir doing to hell with the devil.

Kris plamondon: boy.

Arin Hancock: Yeah.

Kris plamondon: my gosh. my gosh. Stop Stop.

Arin Hancock: I was waiting for you to say that. that lasted forty-two seconds.

Kris plamondon: Who in their right mind I mean is this an epic rock song and you go country?

Arin Hancock: No, I wasn't even country. I don't know what that was. That

Kris plamondon: Yeah.

Arin Hancock: was that was like folk. I don't know. Slowing it down. You know, I'm

Kris plamondon: I

Arin Hancock: all I'm all for reinterpreting songs sometimes.

Kris plamondon: Mm-hmm.

Arin Hancock: yeah, but this one it just doesn't work.

Kris plamondon: No, no. Delete. Delete.

Arin Hancock: see, we're gonna have fun with doing this, and I think you and I are gonna be on the same page for most of these songs. There's a couple in here that I think kind of work and kind of live up to the potential, but don't quite make it. And then you got other ones like that that

Kris plamondon: Well, this is gonna be a really short show to our fans. Like

Arin Hancock: we'll see how this goes. Alright. I don't know. I just thought it would be fun to talk about this record and you know and the episode's gonna go like this because we're not gonna hold back our feelings. And if you're a fan of any of the sounds on here, I'm sorry not sorry. No went yeah

Kris plamondon: Yes, that we're sorry. We're sorry, but we're not sorry. Like, who Okay, okay, move on.

Arin Hancock: All right. I tell ya, Kris, it doesn't get much better than that.

Kris plamondon: Can I get my pillow? My can I get in my PJs?

Arin Hancock: I'm half in mine already, you know the the the the fun times of COVID or living through COVID and then getting on video calls that you only dress from the waist up

Kris plamondon: Yeah. Like I don't understand how these guys did it and ban good bands like Disciple, Skillet, how come they didn't do it?

Arin Hancock: This was before that. Well, Skillet would have s been a r started. Okay.

Kris plamondon: they would have rocked it out.

Arin Hancock: No, no, but Skillet would have just gotten started. so no, they could have made an appearance on here. I'll tell you one thing. Grammatrain does make an appearance on here. Okay, and their version of their song isn't bad. I don't know if they should be doing Stryper songs though. I like Gramatrain. anyways, we'll move on.

Kris plamondon: Next time we talk to Rex at White Cross, we should a ask Rex to do a cover of We should. That would be awesome.

Arin Hancock: Yeah, you know what? And here's the other thing. For those of you who follow Dale Thompson, well Dale as well as yeah, Dale and Troy Thompson, they have done a lot of covers over the year last couple of years. They've done a lot of mainstream covers that aren't anti-Christian, you know, just good message type songs or just good rock songs that they like doing. There was a video out there of them together doing To hell with the Devil. Musically, it kept the essence of the song. Dale's got his scratchy vocals. And I he didn't have the range and he had that scratch in his vocals. I don't think it worked on that song. Now I don't wanna talk Dale down because I like Dale. I think he's a great vocalist. But like with all vocalists, there are certain songs that just don't

Kris plamondon: You're just not gonna tackle. Yeah.

Arin Hancock: No, well there's certain sounds that certain vocal techniques don't work well with, and I think the To hell with the

Kris plamondon: That's right. right.

Arin Hancock: Devil is one of them. To hell with the

Kris plamondon: That's right.

Arin Hancock: So I think it was a bad choice for them to do that song. Just because I don't think it worked for Dale's voice. That's not to say he's a a bad vocalist. It his voice just doesn't work on that song either. Alright. Yeah.

Kris plamondon: I could see Rob Schultz from Petra, he would do really well with Tale with the Devil.

Arin Hancock: I could see that, yeah.

Kris plamondon: Yeah, you know like two h like wow. Yeah.

Arin Hancock: Well, and like I said, and for the plug it in, we just played Rain and Glory. There's a great version of that song right there. this like I said, this came out in nineteen ninety-eight, I believe. all right. so the next track on here is Morella's Forrest, who was on Tooth and Nail Records at the time, and they're doing Calling on You.

Kris plamondon: no. Come on, this is like one of my favorite songs. Don't butcher it.

Arin Hancock: Kris is already shaking his head.

Kris plamondon: my god.

Arin Hancock: All right, enough of that.

Kris plamondon: That sounded like the mini pops.

Arin Hancock: The only good thing that I can say about that is at least it was more upbeat and a little more rocking than the previous song.

Kris plamondon: Come on, guys. If there

Arin Hancock: yeah. I don't know. Yeah, I think this

Kris plamondon: are any good artists out there and you hear this, get your band together, say we could do a better tribute to Stryper and do some of these songs, send that to us.

Arin Hancock: Actually that brings up you know what I have seen, I don't know where on Facebook, I think it was through Facebook, there was a couple of kids. These are young kids barely in their teens doing Stryper, doing like soldiers that under command and a better version of what we've just heard.

Kris plamondon: That would be cool.

Arin Hancock: Alright, next one is performed by Clank. And this is The Way.

Kris plamondon: no. Okay. Ooh.

Arin Hancock: Well we mean a little longer than that one. about a minute and ten.

Kris plamondon: I mean the first five seconds was good. That was about it.

Arin Hancock: Yeah, well like like you know I've said we're not fans of the death metal vocals, the the growling vocals.

Kris plamondon: No, no.

Arin Hancock: although back in the day I did like Vengeance and you know the vocals are kinda like that. you know, at least the guitars are a little closer to the original version. You know, I don't know.

Kris plamondon: We we we hear on the Rock N Metal Faith podcast, we enjoy artists who could actually hold a note. Not use computer synthetics. You know? If you could do that then after then sing something, okay, that would be cool. That would be cool.

Arin Hancock: Yeah, you know what and I I tell ya, so I bought this, I think I listened to it once or twice when I first got this whole album. I haven't listened to it since.

Kris plamondon: It was that good.

Arin Hancock: Yes, and when we're done with this episode, I don't think I'm gonna listen to this again.

Kris plamondon: I never got into w the really death Christian death men I never I had just like you, I had the opportunity, but it just didn't you know no, it just no.

Arin Hancock: Well and even now I I try. you know, like Disciples vocals aren't are almost there. They're not quite I wouldn't call death metal. but they're almost out of my taste of of vocals. same with with the heavy style of of Demon Hunter. And I've been listening to quite a bit of those bands, just trying to get into them. And I go, There is good things about them, so I'm not knocking them for those who are fans of those bands. It just It takes lot for me to get in into them and I haven't really connected with them. I'm

Kris plamondon: Yeah.

Arin Hancock: who was that anyways? That was Clunk, yeah. I don't think so. All right. From there I think

Kris plamondon: Thank you for make sure.

Arin Hancock: it's starting to get even worse. So we're doing Makes Me Wanna Sing, which is performed by Some sort of band called cricket. I don't e I don't even know what what what is what is this?

Kris plamondon: If you don't know who they are, we got a problem.

Arin Hancock: Yeah. Well, like I said, most of these I there's two bands on here are recognized by name. Anyways, Cricket makes me wanna sing. Alright. Well, that one wasn't s it wasn't so bad. It's a it's a punk version of st of Stryper song Okay. So

Kris plamondon: Yeah, exactly.

Arin Hancock: accept that you're a different style. And first I don't know why I want to hear Stryper in a different style. But

Kris plamondon: No, no.

Arin Hancock: Okay, so it's a punk if you're into punk. Okay, the other one, you know, passable I'd say. now here's where it really goes downhill, I think. where are we? Always there for you. yeah.

Kris plamondon: no.

Arin Hancock: Get a load of this one. Performed by Havelena Rail Company. All right. I don't know what that was. Was that a was that a jazz version of Stryper? my.

Kris plamondon: I don't know what that is either. That's b Yeah, is that like big band music or jazz?

Arin Hancock: Yeah. Anything

Kris plamondon: What if I know country Christian country guys took at these songs?

Arin Hancock: That might even be better than some of this stuff.

Kris plamondon: Yeah.

Arin Hancock: And I don't like country.

Kris plamondon: is le

Arin Hancock: what do we got next here? All for one performed by Dinner Mint which Jesse and Erin appear courtesy of Port Old Lu. So okay, so this is some new band formed by members of the band Port Old Lu. Okay, I've heard of Port Lou. I don't know why they didn't just use Port Oo. I've heard of that. But I don't know. Alright, All for One.

Kris plamondon: What?

Arin Hancock: Okay, we didn't even get in the scene on that. I don't know what is going on there.

Kris plamondon: What is that? I was like, what is this a techno version of it? Like

Arin Hancock: make short little edits and I'm going, Yeah, I I don't know. anyways. I don't know what that was.

Kris plamondon: We employ the some of the bands we know do a tribute to Styper Do actual tributes. Yeah.

Arin Hancock: Well Well we know there is good tributes out there. Like I said, the fortieth anniversary f of to Hell of the Devil tribute is out there. That one is definitely worth checking out. You know what? There's a little message here. Hang on a sec here. So this All For one. There's a message after the song. It says, Blessings be upon these four five-year-old boys for beautifully shaping me through my early musical journeys. I think they're talking about stripe. I think this is the guys that did offer

Kris plamondon: boy.

Arin Hancock: one talking about Stryper. And then he says, especially Robert, who indirectly and willingly became my drumming mentor. You guys will always rock. And to all you out there, don't deny your roots. Yeah, that was the message from Jesse Sprinkle. But seriously, if you're gonna do a tribute, like I don't even know why these guys are on a Stryper tribute record. They don't sound anything at all like Stryper, you know. I don't know who who put this together. it anyways.

Kris plamondon: I I would like to to know who at the in the Stryper camp said, Yeah, this is good, this is good.

Arin Hancock: Well, remember too, th at this time Stryper wasn't even together as a band. They had disbanded this is during the time when Michael left the band and he left about ninety four, I believe.

Kris plamondon: So maybe the label did it without the band really Yeah. Maybe the label and then

Arin Hancock: It's it's possible. what label does this appear on? Let me just see if I can find Well, okay, so this came out this came out by Flying Tart Records. And I Yeah, well there's a reason for that.

Kris plamondon: a r a label that's not round anymore. Yes, yes.

Arin Hancock: The other thing is, yeah, so they also got the rights to to to do these songs, I think.

Kris plamondon: I would I would have stayed thousand yards away from this project. No.

Arin Hancock: Yeah, I don't know. Like I said anyways, we keep going back to the goods or if you want old Stryper what's it you check out Guardian's version. That's called the Yellow and Black

Kris plamondon: Yes.

Arin Hancock: Attack Strikes Back. that well we played that one other time talking about good tributes. And I think we're

Kris plamondon: Well, you should end the episode with an actual Stryper song.

Arin Hancock: well, we're gonna end the episode the way we we talked about that. Anyways, so what is ne yeah, we're going to lonely, which apparently they call this a you want a dance version of Stryper? This is this is lonely.

Kris plamondon: my God. I'm gonna talk to you by the robot.

Arin Hancock: All right, enough of that.

Kris plamondon: Wow.

Arin Hancock: You know, this is w maybe one episode we wouldn't have needed. Although I do like getting your reaction to this. This is the first time you're hearing any of these songs, isn't it?

Kris plamondon: Uh-huh, uh-huh. And and thank God it's gonna be the last time.

Arin Hancock: I know some of those the albums I've made you listen to like as we're going through our eighties and the nineties and talking about the eighties bands that did Grunge Records and you're like, man, I don't wanna listen to I don't wanna listen to that. I'll listen to it maybe once if I could you know and no more well or there wasn't one other band that was it the Angelica? I can't anyways you you said you tried, but yeah, you you you just couldn't listen to them anymore. Well Now you know why I can't listen to this record.

Kris plamondon: Yes, yes. This this this was way before Narni and some of the other current bands. Okay. I hope they come out with a good tribute. good.

Arin Hancock: Yes. Well, they did. Like like I said, that that German Pascal who did the one record with Narnia has come out with his version of Honestly. And well he doesn't hit the the same notes as the original version. He does a good version of it. It's him on the acoustic. And actually I was listening to that earlier today. And that's good. he's got a good voice. His version works well. And that's about all I can say is is look that up. if you want to hear some good Stryper

Kris plamondon: Yeah, I'll have to find it.

Arin Hancock: covers, check that out. Maybe I'll play that or try and find a video of that and throw up that up on the website. You know what? Here's the other thing we should do. this is a good time. Instead of doing this at the start of the episode like we usually do, I'm gonna throw this in now. We're about halfway through this record. If you're still with us, you know, thanks for sticking with us through this so far in the episode.

Kris plamondon: Yeah.

Arin Hancock: And share this episode out. Maybe not this episode, but share out the other episodes w to your friends.

Kris plamondon: I if if you don't want to share it out, we understand. Yes.

Arin Hancock: But do share out the podcast to your friends who are who would like to listen to us. Those friends of yours who are in you know into Christian Rock and Meadow or want to know more about Christian Rock and Meadow, share the episode out among your chat groups and all that. And if you've done that already, great. Join our Facebook group or Facebook page. We're gonna ha have polls up there. I have Spotify playlist to you under the podcast name. A couple people have signed up or shared the playlist And normally with the playlist, I will add a song from the that episode onto the playlist so it's gonna slowly grow. I will probably look there's two of them. There's just the Rock and Metal Faith playlist, there is the Plug It In playlist, I will have the Rain Glory up there on that playlist. But yeah, you know we just want to grow. we like comments. So you know, leave comments. There's an email address in the show notes. You can email us. You can leave comments on YouTube or Spotify. And I think the other places. Alright. So I think this is a good place to talk about that. Give us a break from listening to this music that we really do not like.

Kris plamondon: Yeah.

Arin Hancock: okay, where are we next? now we're on to Grammatrain Doing More Than a Man.

Kris plamondon: Okay, well at least there's some life. Okay.

Arin Hancock: They do a little bit of talking before they get into the song. I think I've cut that off and just jumped into the song. All right. That's actually not bad. I think the

Kris plamondon: And not bad. Not the best, but not bad.

Arin Hancock: you know what? It might be the best song on this album.

Kris plamondon: That that's right. That's what I was just thinking. That might be the best we we could we find.

Arin Hancock: You know, every time we go through albums that especially the ones you don't like or the ones I'm not the most impressed with, I try to find something positive. This is probably the only positive thing on this record. Hey, we found something that wasn't terrible.

Kris plamondon: Yes. my goodness. my goodness.

Arin Hancock: that was Grammatrain's version of more than a man. I you know, it wasn't bad.

Kris plamondon: And they were all bands that don't exist anymore.

Arin Hancock: No, you gotta remember when this came out too. Okay, this came out like said ninety eight.

Kris plamondon: Right.

Arin Hancock: it it it's hard for a band to stick around. it it's great that Stryper has they did take about a ten year break and it's great for bands to, you know, stick around a long time.

Kris plamondon: Hey, speaking cover, did you see Tourniquet? Or or or what, the new band that's not Tourniquet or what's his name?

Arin Hancock: yeah, Gary Lenaire there are I think it's yeah, yeah.

Kris plamondon: Yes, I think they'd be a great cover for to Hell with the Devil.

Arin Hancock: It'd be different. I don't know about great. it would definitely be a different version. you're right about that.

Kris plamondon: It would it would be better than what we're listening to. You know. Wow.

Arin Hancock: hey, we should do that. Other b bands that have not done Stryper that we'd like to hear doing anyways, we'll talk about that after the episode. all right. I think this one does some talking at the start of the song. where are we here? You know what to do. Yeah, I know what to do. Turn this record off. you know what to do? This is performed by I don't know, something called Combat Chuck. Okay.

Kris plamondon: god.

Arin Hancock: Ha ha. All right. There you go. Enough of that.

Kris plamondon: No, no. Go go go back to the garage for a while.

Arin Hancock: The only thing kind of positive about this is I know what they were doing at the start of it. Okay, so what if you've heard the original version of Stryper's Winter Wonderland, okay, that came okay,

Kris plamondon: okay.

Arin Hancock: they start that song off that way. So they were trying to mimic, make fun of, copy whatever you want to use of Stryper doing Winter Wonderland, although they're doing it with you know what to do. So now Stryper has come out with a new Christmas record last year. They've got a new version an essentially an updated version of Winter Wonderland. And they cut out that little talk and preamble that they did at the start of the song. But back in the early 80s, 83, 84, I think it was originally on Yellow and Black Attack or something like this. The way it starts off, okay, is Michael coming on. Well they got Robert on the drums going dun da dun the dun da dun dun, you just creating a drum beat. Michael comes on and says, hey guys, time to the little Christmas singing And they're all making excuses. no, I don't know, man. I got I'm sick. I think I got a cold and I don't want to do this. And stuff. And Michael goes, Alright, darn you guys, I'll think I'll do it myself. And he starts off, you know, Sleigh bells ring, you listen. This isn't gonna work guys, come on! And then they all jump in and do a song and then the guitars and drums kick in again. Yes. So that's what they were doing on on on this version.

Kris plamondon: so and then so that's how this okay.

Arin Hancock: So the intro that

Kris plamondon: And it just sucked.

Arin Hancock: So the intro

Kris plamondon: It sounded like they were like in elementary school.

Arin Hancock: I know. so th th the point I'm trying to say is I know what they were trying to do. They were trying to redo Winter Wonderland with this song and I I get that. But even when they kick into the zone I'm like, it just yeah, yeah, yeah, y y

Kris plamondon: I wanna figure out if I could do my own AI version of To Hell with the Devil. I I would

Arin Hancock: I'm sure you could.

Kris plamondon: think that would be awesome.

Arin Hancock: Actually Bride did it as a as a fun side project Dale Thompson and he's not gonna release them, but he did quite a w maybe a year ago, I can't remember now. He did it he uploaded all the lyrics to each song on Snakes in the Playground just to see what AI would do with them.

Kris plamondon: Mm-hmm.

Arin Hancock: And showed each version of AI's version of those tracks. And it was interesting. He says, this is kinda cool. I just wanted to see what AI would do with our songs And he says, No, I'm not releasing them. And you know, I we've all got our views on AI. I don't believe AI should be in the art world. Art is for creative people. And you know what? I'm a bit of an artist myself. Am I any good? Not really, but

Kris plamondon: I've I've been doing it with a buddy of mine who understands that kind of stuff. my gosh. It is amazing. It's I mean, it's not the usual stuff, but you can't tell the difference. If anything, it might sound better. I mean, like a yeah.

Arin Hancock: think with those with a discerning ear.

Kris plamondon: musically, lyrically, it helps you fit things together. It's Singing wise, I mean, it's singing notes. I couldn't even dream about getting

Arin Hancock: Well yes, but that's the point. You're not doing it. Computer's doing it. But anyways, l

Kris plamondon: You know.

Arin Hancock: let's move on. You know, this may not be a short episode just because another bad part about this album is it's long. there's like seventeen tracks on here, so

Kris plamondon: my gosh, we're come on.

Arin Hancock: so another reason I have short tracks. Anyways.

Kris plamondon: We gotta be done soon.

Arin Hancock: a band that some people will recognise by name, Goati Hook, is doing First Love. enough of that. Let's move on.

Kris plamondon: That's not too too bad.

Arin Hancock: Alright, yeah. yeah, I don't know what that style is. It's I don't know, is is it I don't know, someone help me out.

Kris plamondon: And he g well yeah, I'm not in the punk, so

Arin Hancock: Is that punk that's I don't know what you call that, but anyways. Alright. So we got a lot of songs to get through and this is not my favorite episode, but I thought it'd fun to do. that was Goati hook. who is this? Echoing Green doing you won't be lonely. Enough of that. You're already hanging your head. Nothing simple that one?

Kris plamondon: Nothing.

Arin Hancock: Yeah, I I got nothing here. I'm like I again who o who authorized this? that was you won't be lonely. I don't even know who Echoing Green is, nor do I care. where are we now? Alright, well here's another band people will probably recognize by name. This is The Blamed. Doing soldiers under command. I think this one's a little closer to the original style. right, enough of that.

Kris plamondon: That's not too bad, but

Arin Hancock: Yeah, I remember when I first got this, I thought, well, this one is kind of okay. Yeah, it's it's the the blended version of it. The only thing I didn't like was no at least the guitars were close to the original but they couldn't do the lead work. That whole lead guitar that was done at the original, you know, at the start of Stryper's version is missing. But they kept all the same rhythm. So You know, you got the staccato rhythm, but no lead over top of it. which kind of took away from the song, I think, but at least they did what they could with their ability, I think. And then

Kris plamondon: Yeah.

Arin Hancock: I don't know, for some reason someone else wants to do makes me wanna sing. I they got like two versions of this song on the same record. Why I don't know. Neither one is good, but here we go, makes me wanna sing version two. This is done by Let. Alexia? All right.

Kris plamondon: Man. Meh man.

Arin Hancock: We're not even getting into the vocal part. Just that's it.

Kris plamondon: Yeah, I think yeah. Don't that that we're done with that one. Yeah.

Arin Hancock: That was you know, so you got some heavy guitars on it, but my thoughts on that one and same your s thoughts on some of these past episodes you didn't like the album. You said the the production was not good. Sound like it was recorded in garage th that's how this one sounds to me. It's like this was like a basement recording or something, I don't know.

Kris plamondon: Yeah. I think you should reach out to those kids that are doing Stryper covers and get them on the show. That might be more exciting than you know.

Arin Hancock: Yeah. where are we? hey, okay.

Kris plamondon: Ask their parents if they could wanted to come on. That would be awesome.

Arin Hancock: Hey, I I got some good news for you. We're down to the last three songs.

Kris plamondon: Yes, thank you though.

Arin Hancock: All right. Now I don't know who this guy is. He goes by the name Joe Christmas doing waiting for a love that's real.

Kris plamondon: my gosh.

Arin Hancock: Well you gotta remember this I think this was originally ballad by Stryper as well. So okay, if you wanna do a different version of this, I I I get that. I don't know, is there any singing on this? I don't think so. Alright, enough of that.

Kris plamondon: What was that? Like like what they they started the song and realized that wasn't the right song?

Arin Hancock: No no that that's me doing that because I've had enough of that record that's on I'm just ripping the record off the player.

Kris plamondon: My gosh.

Arin Hancock: okay. Ever hear of s some artist called Fluffy? And Ralph Fluffy.

Kris plamondon: Waffy? No.

Arin Hancock: And Ralph Nilash. you why he's on this? Because he's part of Flying Tart Records. So that's how he got on this this record. I'm just gonna play this and see what you think. That's fluffy. I'm trying to do honestly.

Kris plamondon: my gosh, what That sounds like a kid who just pressed on the key and let it sit there for

Arin Hancock: you know what? It it's been a busy month. I wanted a good laugh. I think we got a few laughs out of this.

Kris plamondon: That was horrible. And if any of the bands are listening to this and they have they have queries or they they just don't like our opinion, email us, w come on the show, explain what happened in that moment. Yeah.

Arin Hancock: Yes, there you go. okay, It says something here. Ralph Malas Was the guy who did the vocals and the Halloween sound effects. So I think you're right. I think he that's what he did. He just pressed on a keyboard and held the note down.

Kris plamondon: man.

Arin Hancock: anyways, yeah. So last track on this one performed by Marriage is Madness, says displays a simple case of non-presence recorded on cold afternoon Russia. Everything is performed by Brick. I don't know what this is. Other than it's supposed to be song free. That's enough.

Kris plamondon: That sounded like, hey, we wanna make an impression with we can zone like Stryper, so we'll open it with and then it just bombs. No.

Arin Hancock: jeez. You know what gives me hope 'cause I'm sure I can do better than most of these songs.

Kris plamondon: I'm sure they had the best intentions, but nobody told them, No, you can't do that. No.

Arin Hancock: I know. anyways, Alright, so that's it for this record. we really don't have a lot to say about it.

Kris plamondon: No. I think we'll just end out fade out by

Arin Hancock: If you have this record, okay, the sweet family music, if you've heard it, tell us your thoughts on it. if you got through the songs any better than what we did. If you have K well there was one positive on this. we did like the Grammatrains.

Kris plamondon: There was?

Arin Hancock: We we did like the Grammatrain version. that's probably the best one.

Kris plamondon: And and the and the reign of what was it? The reign of glory.

Arin Hancock: Yeah, y but that's not on this record, unfortunately. If you want that song, you gotta go buy the fortieth anniversary tribute ri

Kris plamondon: Yes.

Arin Hancock: to Hell with the Devil and that just came out a couple months ago. the other thing is

Kris plamondon: And whoever authorized this back in that day, they they had

Arin Hancock: What

Kris plamondon: to get their head examined.

Arin Hancock: What were you thinking?

Kris plamondon: Yes. No, you don't ask bands, nobody knows who they are.

Arin Hancock: Well, no, th there's nothing wrong with that, 'cause that would help bands get established if they could do good versions of the songs.

Kris plamondon: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Arin Hancock: But anyways. We like to try and and make a point of each episode. So the point of this this is supposed to be a tribute record. Do you think this is a tribute record to Stryper? We don't. you know, a tribute I think on Stryper, this I don't know what this was to me. This was just taking the the essence of pretty much every song that was covered. There was

Kris plamondon: It would

Arin Hancock: two or three exceptions to the songs where okay the essence was still there, maybe wasn't performed the best.

Kris plamondon: And we'll be nice.

Arin Hancock: Yeah. I didn't mind the blamed version of Soldiers Under Command. that song could have been done better, but maybe that was the best the blamed could do. I did like the Grammatrain version. I have to look out which one they did again. and there's a couple others on there that were passable, but overall. If you were to rate this record, Kris, what would you rate it? Okay.

Kris plamondon: One

Arin Hancock: yeah, I'll be a little generous, I'll give it two. I think there were two songs that were passable.

Kris plamondon: I no, no, no, no, no it's not on my list. No, for a problem no.

Arin Hancock: No. Like I said, just because we've been going through the Stryper Records and I thought it would be fun to kinda talk about this one. I've had I had fun anyways talking about this, even if it wasn't in even if it wasn't

Kris plamondon: It was all right. Yeah, it was okay.

Arin Hancock: enjoyable listening to the record.

Kris plamondon: Yeah, yeah. If you if you enjoyed this episode, give it a like, give it a yes, tell us. Or not, that's okay too.

Arin Hancock: And yeah. Well no, we we love to hear from you. Leave comments

Kris plamondon: Yeah.

Arin Hancock: like we said. And we're gonna do something a little different, like I said, because we're trying to get into our main episode a little quicker, have a little more fun at the beginning. We don't want to bog it down with too much music. So you may have if you've been listening for a while, you realize we have changed our theme music. I still like that original or not the original, but I still like their previous theme music. So we're moving that. to the back of the episode and so Thanks for listening, everybody. Please leave some comments. We love to hear from you. Check us out on Facebook and leave comments there. And we're gonna be doing a little poll too on there. That little mascot guy that pops up every every now and then. He needs a name. No, no, he's not here.

Kris plamondon: I didn't see him in this episode. Where'd he go? No.

Arin Hancock: but he needs a name. We're gonna be looking for a name for him. If you got ideas for a name for him, let us know about that. And anyways, yeah. Thanks for listening, God bless and talk see ya later.

Kris plamondon: See you later, guys. Have fun. Be be safe.