Oct Bonus: Resurrection Band-Lament

Arin Hancock: This is the Rock and Metal Faith Podcast. All right, welcome to the Rock and Metal Faith Podcast, where it's all about the rock that makes me sing. This is the place to get info-on Christian rock and metal, the classics and the new bands. I'm your host, Arin Hancock, with my co-host Kris Plumondan. How are you doing, Kris?

Kris plamondon: Doing good, how you doing, man?

Arin Hancock: Doing good. And yeah, we're we're doing this kind of on the fly. it's time for our monthly bonus episodes. So this is our October bonus where we cover birthdays, anniversaries, and all that. We are also doing something a little bit different for a bonus. Normally we cover a band in brief description, brief history. However, this episode is coming out in between two interviews. If you've been following along with us consecutively, you've just heard the Jorge Canon interview. And we got another interview coming out, full length episode after this. That is gonna be Glenn Kaiser of Rez Now, we've also been doing a series of bands. From the 70s and 80s putting music out in the nineties because a lot of them followed a different style of music when the nineties came out, trying to stay relevant. And we've been talking about how those albums have changed from the original sound. And because we're talking to Glenn Kaiser, we didn't want to take up his whole time with just one record, but I wanted to cover the last record, Lament. So we're gonna do that. And because this is in between two interviews where we don't normally do a lot of our usual stuff, we're gonna try and squeeze that in without all the bells and whistles and and music and all that. So we'll get right into it real quickly. One of the things we've started doing though is some Stryper trivia. So we'll get into that. let's go with this one. So Kris, what two original songs did Michael's sweet write for the best of Stryper number seven? The compilation. Any idea? Yeah.

Kris plamondon: The best of the best the best of Stryper.

Arin Hancock: Yeah, apparently Seven, the best of Stryper, was a greatest hits record, but had two brand new songs on it. Do you remember what those were?

Kris plamondon: No, I knew about the n that new album, which I should say everybody listening to this podcast, you need to go on Apple or Spotify, download it, it's awesome, you will enjoy it.

Arin Hancock: Alright, yes. you know what, and I don't even know the answer to that one. I'm just turning the page, checking out the answer. The two brand new songs were something and for you. So I don't even know if I've heard those ones. Actually, and you brought up something too. Talking about the new Stryper record. Guess what? I got a package today. I'm gonna do an unboxing too.

Kris plamondon: I wonder if Tim got his copy today. Yeah.

Arin Hancock: I don't know. yeah. for those by the time this comes out, I believe to Hell with the Podcast have released their episode. We were just guesting on there talking about the brand new record. We've been listening to it via streaming, either YouTube or Spotify or Apple, however you wanna get it. 'cause we wanna give our initial thoughts on it. I order there we go. You probably heard that ripping of the paper.

Kris plamondon: he's opening it. Drum roll. Where's the drum roll?

Arin Hancock: There is one on here somewhere. Here we are. My copy of Stryper Throne of Thorns. I c right after we don't

Kris plamondon: Of Thrones, yeah. Game of Thorns, yeah.

Arin Hancock: No, that's a different series. But I wonder if they were inspired by that title. I don't know. Anyways, I I can't wait to throw this on and listen to the actual C D which we'll probably do right after the recording this. You know what? Maybe I shouldn't have a do this here.

Kris plamondon: Yeah, definitely. I've been listening to it since Saturday, so when I I got carried away listening to it and and just forgot. The time w the time went by so fast.

Arin Hancock: I'm gonna quickly p pull out of the plastic. I bet. Actually I haven't listened to it since. Ooh, there we go. There's some cool pictures inside. So we got got the cover art on the C D itself.

Kris plamondon: look at that. wow. Now I'm jealous.

Arin Hancock: And

Kris plamondon: That's not fair.

Arin Hancock: and there's some cool pictures and the words inside. I'll j I'll show you a couple. There's one of each of the band members. and here's a group shot.

Kris plamondon: yes, yes, yes, yes.

Arin Hancock: So If you're listening to just the audio only on this, I just showed held up the picture from inside the cover. actually the pictures look like they're taken within that tunnel in the one of the videos there. They had that tunnel leading into the cave in a couple of the videos they've released. It looks like that's where some of these group pictures were were taken from.

Kris plamondon: Yes. I really like that music video that they put up the Throne of Thrones single. I've been trying to figure out how to take it and put it on our website, but I guess

Arin Hancock: Yeah. Right.

Kris plamondon: th I guess they won't allow do allow us to do that.

Arin Hancock: No no no. You you just you just you don't you're not very technical savvy there. I I can do that. But

Kris plamondon: okay.

Arin Hancock: what was I gonna say? on the w I don't know about the website, but yeah, we'll throw it up on the Facebook page. So that actually reminds me, here's a good good segue. So thanks for bringing that up, Kris. We do have a Facebook page, so check that out as well. And we love hearing comments, so leave comments on, you know, if you want on Spotify or YouTube, that's easy to leave comments. If you're on Apple, you might be able to leave comments there. Wherever you listen in, we're all over the place. And if you don't know how to leave comments, then drop us an email. We have an email in the show notes. We have a Patreon page as well. We're gonna try and get some stuff up there. So far most stuff on the Patreon that you have to pay for is early content or unedited stuff. And eventually we're gonna get some exclusive paid content up there too. we're gonna do a few episodes here and there that are only gonna appear there. But that's all that. Facebook, yeah, and Instagram and all that. So catch us wherever you you catch us. And leave comments. We'd love to hear from you. All right. we're gonna move on and we're gonna talk about the album Lament because this was a different album for Rez. As Glenn actually says in our interview there they re used Ty Tabor to produce it. Ty Tabor is from the band Kings X, but came in to produce it this time. Released in I think nineteen ninety-five. And this was actually a a concept record for Rez. The songs talk about a man's disillusionment with harshness and cruelty of life and his eventual realization that things will not change without his own spiritual re redemption. And I kinda got that. Like if you listen to it from start to finish, you'll hear a flow of the sounds, you'll hear maybe not an actual story story, but you'll hear this. theme running throughout the the record and I th thought it was kinda cool. Your thoughts on Lament?

Kris plamondon: I I agree completely with you. It's completely different. It's it's a good album for for that time and era.

Arin Hancock: Yeah, I think Glenn said there's it was this one was more bluesy. I don't know if I found it more bluesy. There was a couple of sounds with the harmonica in there. There's a little bit different sounds in there. the keyboard is more of an organ sound. And you know, they got some great rockers in there. We were talking about summer Throw which I thought was a great there aren't I don't think it's really a bad song on there because there's a few sounds on there that you wouldn't want to listen to by itself. But when you listen to it in the flow of the record, you go, okay, it makes sense and and it belongs here. But if you were to pull out the let me call up the track list, like if you were to pull out a c a song here there by itself, like Dark Carnival, just to listen to that on the radio is not gonna work. It's not a very good song. But in context with the rest of the record, it fits. It's it's a good song any songs on there that kind of stood out for you, Kris?

Kris plamondon: No, just I'm trying to remember we've done a lot of interviews, so I'm trying to remember this

Arin Hancock: Yeah.

Kris plamondon: off the top of my head. I know I like the first two song or the first three songs.

Arin Hancock: Okay, yeah, yeah, they're good. Yeah. Across These Fields on the Move, Summer Throw. I like actually I kinda like it all, but the ones that stick out I would say is Song and Dance, In Change, and then maybe surprised. And these songs are actually more the heavier songs more the the straight rockers. but even the rockers on here aren't your typical rock sound. It's almost like they've blended their rock, their blues, and a little bit alternative into the mix. it was a different album for Rez but in nineteen ninety five I actually liked it. So I thought it was one of the there were better ones.

Kris plamondon: I I mean for me, if I heard that C D back in ninety five, I don't think I would have bought it just because it

Arin Hancock: Yeah.

Kris plamondon: sounded different, right? It was

Arin Hancock: Yeah.

Kris plamondon: what's what's the the yeah, other band in that time? Audio adrenaline.

Arin Hancock: okay.

Kris plamondon: They they sounded much like audio adrenaline.

Arin Hancock: I don't know if I'd make that comparison, but okay.

Kris plamondon: Yeah, yeah, they're they're good. I mean, audio adrenaline's making a comeback, but I mean Rez and audio adrenaline are way

Arin Hancock: Yeah.

Kris plamondon: far apart. So yeah, I would have the the early Rez I would have not been interested in and you know. Anything before silent screams or a

Arin Hancock: Yeah.

Kris plamondon: I I can't relate to and I think I

Arin Hancock: I I tell ya, you know what? Check out the album Between Heaven and Hell. That came out just before Silent Screams and that is probably their best album I think. I a lot people a

Kris plamondon: okay.

Arin Hancock: lot of people might say colors or whatever, but I think Heaven and Hell for my pick is probably the their best. But I came in on Innocent Blood. I didn't know anything about Rez at all until Innocent Blood. So that's where I came in. Alright, let's move on to birthdays. October third, we have Eddie DeGarmo.

Kris plamondon: you know.

Arin Hancock: you know big on Eddie DeGarmo or DeGarmo and Key

Kris plamondon: Yeah, that's right. That's right.

Arin Hancock: Just okay. All right. yeah, Eddie DeGarmo was born in nineteen fifty-four. I know we did do an episode talking about the best of DeGarmo and Key. I don't know if there was a whole episode or that was just tagged on the back there. So we'll have to it we might have to revisit that. That was back, I think, when I had poor audio and poor editing skills and

Kris plamondon: boy.

Arin Hancock: Alright, well, October seventh. Here's someone you probably like quite a bit. Michael W. Smith has a birthday. I knew that'd get you going.

Kris plamondon: Hey, are are are you gonna play a go west man clip? Come on.

Arin Hancock: Yeah. No, we're not playing any music. We're we're this is just our bonus, so we're we're cutting down the the length of it.

Kris plamondon: You know, come on. If any of you guys are are curious what the single goal west, young man, you can find it anywhere. Go go check it out. Probably his best song.

Arin Hancock: Yeah, Michael W. Smith is more contemporary, a little out of our wheelhouse, I I guess you could say, but very in influential as an artist and he's probably inspired a lot of the bands we do talk about, so

Kris plamondon: He set the tone for w for rock music as well. He was a you know he's had interviews where he's talked about, you know, White Cross and deliverance with them on tour. And he's like they're pretty cool. They're it's not for me, but

Arin Hancock: Yeah.

Kris plamondon: you know, like

Arin Hancock: Alright, October eighth. Jim Chaffen, who was the original drummer for the band Crucified, played with he has also played with The Blamed and with Deliverance. So there you go. Talk about being heavy.

Kris plamondon: Boy, bad back in the day, I like Crucified. That was awesome,

Arin Hancock: Okay.

Kris plamondon: man. That was awesome.

Arin Hancock: We might have to cover one of the records. I know some of the other podcasts have covered their big one pillars of humanity or or whatever, so Jim Chafen was born nineteen sixty six. Alright. On to October eleventh where we have a album anniversary. We have a Michael Sweet release, the album ten came out in twenty nineteen. Actually when we were just talking about that too, there where Michael said one of the solos off of that record is probably his favorite solo that he's come up with. So there was an interesting tie in there. Alright, October twelfth we have Michael Rowe. And if you don't know him, he is the singer, the writer, and guitarist for the Seventy Sevens. Michael Rowe was born in nineteen fifty four. Your thoughts on the seventy sevens? Have you heard anything from them?

Kris plamondon: No, that's first I my mind is thick is saying it we I've heard it before but I don't recall. So

Arin Hancock: you probably heard heard them. I remember y we keep talking about that festival in in Edmonton years and years ago. And I know they were there. That was actually my introduction to the seventy sevens. Was yeah.

Kris plamondon: Me okay, okay, I knew who you're are the were they like five guys?

Arin Hancock: I can't remember if there are f I think there were four piece. Anyways. Also,

Kris plamondon: Okay.

Arin Hancock: earlier this year they had a new record. I think this is like January, February, they had a new record come out. So if you're in the seventy sevens, I mean this year's almost over. I'm sure you probably already know that record came out. Alright.

Kris plamondon: Yeah, get a hold of us. Get a hold of us. So you could refresh my memory.

Arin Hancock: October fourteenth. Carl Johan Grimmark. And he's best known as the guitarist for Narnia. Born in 1977. Actually, just a few years.

Kris plamondon: We gotta do a we gotta do an episode on Narnie one of these days.

Arin Hancock: we have. We we've talked about the best of Nernia.

Kris plamondon: yeah, that's right, we did, that's right.

Arin Hancock: Yeah.

Kris plamondon: Where was I?

Arin Hancock: You were there. You just have a very short memory. I know you don't remember too much f episode to episode.

Kris plamondon: I don't we w I well we've done a lot of episodes, you know.

Arin Hancock: I know, I know. I've I've got it all written down actually.

Kris plamondon: I remember now. It's good.

Arin Hancock: okay, okay. All right. October sixteenth, we have another album anniversary. This one is Fallen by Stryper. Came out in twenty fifteen. that's actually a good album. That ranks up there with high on my list of favorite Stryper albums. but like I said, talking to To hell With the Podcast, I think my new favorite is gonna be Throne of Thorns.

Kris plamondon: Wow.

Arin Hancock: But yeah, for the new era, I do like Fallen quite a bit. there's some really good stuff on there. And I know some of Michael's favorite songs to play live come off that record. So there you go. All right, October nineteenth. here's another musician you might be interested in, Kris. Billy Smiley, who was founder of Whiteheart, also did the guitars and vocals with Whiteheart. You a Whiteheart fan?

Kris plamondon: yes, yes, yes. I was almost thinking one of these days we have to play their single is heart is always in it.

Arin Hancock: Yeah, I I don't have that. Actually I don't have any of their stuff and I like to get hold of the powerhouse album. I like that one.

Kris plamondon: Yeah. That that's a perfect o opening for our show. His heart was always in it.

Arin Hancock: Actually, I might be able to figure out how to play that on good guitar. Anyways, Billy Smalley was born nineteen fifty seven. October twenty first. here we go. Here's another artist you like. Jimmy P. Brown, who's known as the guitarist for deliverance. He was born in nineteen sixty nine. I know you're a deliverance fan, so

Kris plamondon: Wow. That's another ban. Why are we doing an episode on Deliverance?

Arin Hancock: Actually we will be in the new year. I'll I'll explain

Kris plamondon: Okay. Are are are are you do we have a guest from deliverance? shock.

Arin Hancock: No. but that we're gonna start a brand new album series that's gonna include deliverance in that series.

Kris plamondon: okay.

Arin Hancock: and for those who are more in the softer side, Jimmy has also done a a project called Jupiter six. That's Jupiter V one. And that's more of a pink Floydish type of sound. So if you're into that, check that out. I don't know how much he's put out under that name. I think only one or may one album, maybe two, I don't know. And also on October twenty first, in twenty twenty two, we had another Stryper release, The Final Battle. So that was not bad, actually. I like that one too. Well, it's hard to find a Stryper record I don't like, I guess, but

Kris plamondon: wow.

Arin Hancock: And then wow, forty years ago, October twenty fourth, To Hell with the Devil came out in nineteen eighty four.

Kris plamondon: forty-years wow, I we're old. We're

Arin Hancock: Ha ha ha.

Kris plamondon: that's scary. Holy smokes.

Arin Hancock: Well, remember too, th earlier this year there was that fortieth anniversary tribute record of To Hell with the Devil with all the different artists doing different songs too, so jeez. What?

Kris plamondon: I still remember when I first got that cassette for the To Hell with the Devil and I went through that cassette like every single day li listening to that single To Hell with the Devil.

Arin Hancock: I know that that's a classic, I tell ya.

Kris plamondon: Yeah.

Arin Hancock: you know what? Stryper and Michael Sweet must love or or their labels must love releasing stuff in in October because October thirtieth was the demo for truth by Michael Sweet. And actually they come out in both. it said the demo came out in nineteen ninety eight and then the official release was two thousand. Yeah, that's right. So what happened there was Michael made a home recording demo copy of an album called Truth and released it to just his fans who bought it off of the internet, off of his I think webpage. And this was before the internet really took off. This was before, you know, the internet was just kinda getting going. It was hard f to follow people, hard to know what what was going on. He releases truth. It actually did quite well and I think he sold every copy that he had made. And then he signs to a label and I don't remember what label it was. But they understood that he was had this record that was selling quite well on his own. They said, Let us release it. So two years later they release it. And I know I've got the same day for truth. So I'm not sure if it's the same day in both years or I just have the dates wrong. If anyone can correct me on that, let us know.

Kris plamondon: wow.

Arin Hancock: Well, we got another Stryper record October thirty first in two thousand six. This was Stryper Live, the extended versions, which was recorded the same time as two thousand or sorry, as Seven Weeks, which came which was in two thousand three. So they released Seven Weeks Live in two thousand three, and I guess in three years later they released the s extended version of that record. in I guess had some extra tracks on that. I'm not too sure how that went. I again get back to us on that. One last birthday, October thirty first, Rob Fraser who is a singer and writer, but he did keyboard and guitar and some vocals with Petra on their nineteen seventy eight album, Washes Whiter Than. So I'm not sure if you're familiar with Washes Whiter Than.

Kris plamondon: No.

Arin Hancock: this was classic Petra, old Petra with Greg Voltz at the time. I know some of the old stuff with Greg Volt, but I don't know them record by record. that stuff is the seventies sound. It's a little mellow. they got much better with John Schlitt and then they bring in John and Dino Elefonte to produce them and that just elevated them. But Rob Fraser, who was with them for Wash is Whiter Than, was born in nineteen fifty three. And that about wraps it up for birthdays with us. And this bonus episode. So remember, yeah, to share this episode out, share any episode you like of ours out, get people listening, get people talking, and we'll see you next time I guess. God bless and keep keep rocking.

Kris plamondon: What? Give us a thousand likes on this episode. That'd be awesome.